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Asked: June 5, 20252025-06-05T02:14:09+05:30 2025-06-05T02:14:09+05:30

Maximize the steps for a 13-instruction Brainfuck program before termination

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I’ve been diving into some Brainfuck programming lately, and I came across this really intriguing challenge that I wanted to share with you all. So, you know how Brainfuck is that esoteric programming language that has only eight commands? It’s crazy how something so minimal can yield some pretty complex results! Anyway, here’s the thing: I’m trying to maximize the number of steps in a Brainfuck program that has only 13 instructions before it finally terminates.

Now, when I first started thinking about this, I figured it couldn’t be too hard—just throw in loops, maybe some increments and decrements, and we’d be golden, right? But then, as I started piecing together different combinations of commands, I realized it quickly gets tricky. It’s like a puzzle where you want to make sure that each instruction counts for maximum performance without cutting corners on the number of steps.

Here’s the fun part: what I found is that you can cleverly set up loops, but they can’t be too large or they’ll end up terminating early or wasting your instruction counts. You want to find a sweet spot where you can extend the program’s execution without hitting that termination point too soon. I mean, it’s similar to spinning plates; you want to keep as many in the air as possible for as long as possible!

Would you all be up for the challenge? Grab your favorite Brainfuck interpreter, and let’s see how many steps you can come up with in a program that contains just 13 commands. Think about commands like `+`, `-`, `<`, `>`, `[`, and `]` but remember to watch out for termination! What combinations do you think would work? Can you maximize those execution steps before the dreaded end of the program? I can’t wait to see what creative solutions you come up with. Let’s get scripting!

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    1. anonymous user
      2025-06-05T02:14:10+05:30Added an answer on June 5, 2025 at 2:14 am

      Oh wow, this sounds super interesting! I’m kinda new to Brainfuck too and honestly I’m still wrapping my head around it. I mean, just 8 commands?! Feels crazy but cool at the same time.

      From what you’re saying, the loops seem like the key, right? I wonder if you could try nesting loops somehow like maybe doing something like:

      +[>[+]<-]>>

      But honestly, I haven’t tried it yet, so no idea how many steps it would actually run. Curse these loops—they’re always tricking me!

      Maybe we could just keep increasing some value really big and then slowly count it down in loops? Like using ‘+’ inside one loop and ‘-‘ inside another so they waste a bunch of time switching back and forth? Something like:

      +[+[+]-[-]]

      But wait… that’s probably going to mess things up. Now I’m confused again haha!

      It’d be cool if someone could actually test some of these—see which combinations run longest. But yeah… loops within loops… feels like that’s probably where we could milk the most steps out from just 13 instructions. Or am I completely wrong here? haha

      What do you think?

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    2. anonymous user
      2025-06-05T02:14:11+05:30Added an answer on June 5, 2025 at 2:14 am

      Maximizing the number of steps in a Brainfuck program with only 13 instructions is indeed a fascinating challenge. The key to achieving this lies in cleverly using the eight available commands, particularly by implementing loops strategically. By nesting loops and carefully balancing increment and decrement operations, you can create extended execution paths that prolong the program’s running time. For instance, a combination of increasing and decreasing values within a loop can significantly enhance the number of steps executed before termination. Additionally, proper management of memory cells is crucial; you want to ensure you’re not inadvertently causing the program to halt early or hit an undefined state.

      To embark on this challenge, consider crafting a program that continuously loops while maintaining an internal counter through a series of increments and decrements. One approach could involve setting up a loop that checks for a non-zero value and performing repeated operations within that loop, effectively allowing you to accumulate steps. As you brainstorm different combinations, keep an eye on how you can manipulate the pointers without causing premature termination due to excessive memory usage or incorrect pointer positioning. Engage with this puzzle, experiment with various combinations of `+`, `-`, `<`, `>`, `[`, and `]`, and see how many execution steps you can accumulate before hitting that termination point. Happy coding!

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