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Asked: September 26, 20242024-09-26T22:33:07+05:30 2024-09-26T22:33:07+05:30In: Linux, Ubuntu

Can someone explain the differences between logical volumes, physical volumes, and volume groups in the context of Ubuntu? I’m looking for a clear understanding of how these concepts interrelate within the Linux volume management system.

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I’ve been diving into Ubuntu and trying to wrap my head around some of the concepts related to storage management, specifically when it comes to logical volumes, physical volumes, and volume groups. Honestly, it’s a bit overwhelming, and I feel like I’m getting lost in the terminology.

From what I’ve gathered, physical volumes are the actual storage devices, like hard drives or partitions. But then there’s this whole layer on top of that called volume groups, which seem to act as a pool that contains multiple physical volumes. And then we have logical volumes, which are like slices of these volume groups that we can actually use to store files, right?

What I’m really struggling with is how these pieces all fit together in practice. For example, if I wanted to allocate more space to a logical volume, would I first have to add a new physical volume to the volume group? Or can the volume group dynamically manage this for me? Also, if I were to decide to remove a physical volume, how does that affect the logical volumes within the group?

I’ve read some tutorials, but they often skip over the specifics or assume a level of understanding that I don’t quite have yet. I guess I’m looking for a real-world analogy or example that might make it all click. If someone could break this down in a way that’s easy to grasp, maybe with a simple scenario about managing storage on a personal laptop setup, that would be super helpful.

Also, are there any common pitfalls or things that I should be aware of when working with LVM in Ubuntu? I just want to make sure I’m not missing something crucial that could lead to data loss or complications down the line. Any insights or explanations would be awesome!

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    1. anonymous user
      2024-09-26T22:33:08+05:30Added an answer on September 26, 2024 at 10:33 pm



      Understanding LVM in Ubuntu


      Understanding Storage Management in Ubuntu

      You’re definitely not alone in feeling a bit overwhelmed by LVM (Logical Volume Management) on Ubuntu. Let’s break it down step-by-step!

      The Basics

      Physical Volumes (PVs) are indeed your actual storage devices like hard drives or partitions. Think of them as the raw materials in a factory.

      Volume Groups (VGs) act as a container or pool of these physical volumes. You can think of this as the factory itself, where different materials are stored and can be accessed for production.

      Logical Volumes (LVs) are the “products” that come out of the factory, which you can actually use to store your files. You can think of this as the space within the factory where you assemble your products (like shelves or bins). Each logical volume is a specific slice of your volume group.

      How They Fit Together

      Now, regarding your question about allocating more space: to increase the size of a logical volume, you usually would need to have available space in the volume group. If you want to add more storage, yes, you’d typically have to add a new physical volume to the volume group first. It’s like needing to add more raw materials to your factory to produce more products.

      However, if your volume group is full (meaning no free space left), you can’t expand your logical volumes without adding more physical volumes. Volume groups do not manage this automatically—they need a physical volume added first.

      Removing a Physical Volume

      If you decide to remove a physical volume from your volume group, it gets trickier. Before you can do that:

      - Make sure that there is enough space in the remaining physical volumes to hold all the data that was on the physical volume you're removing.
      - Move any logical volumes off the physical volume if necessary.
      

      If you don’t manage this step, you could end up with data loss, as the logical volumes could be referencing removed physical volumes.

      A Simple Scenario

      Imagine you have a laptop with a single 500GB hard drive (this is your physical volume). You set up LVM with:

      - 1 physical volume (500GB)
      - 1 volume group (named VG1)
      - 2 logical volumes (LV1: 200GB for photos, LV2: 300GB for videos)
      

      Later, you find that your video files are taking up more space than expected. You could:

      1. Replace your 500GB drive with a 1TB drive (a new physical volume).
      2. Add the 1TB drive to VG1.
      3. Resize LV2 to use more space from VG1.
      

      Or, if you decide to remove LV1 to reclaim space, you need to make sure to back up your photos first because deleting LVs permanently erases their data.

      Common Pitfalls

      • Data Backups: Always have backups before making changes.
      • Careful with Sizes: Be careful when resizing logical volumes—stretching them too much on a full VG can lead to corruption.
      • Monitor Space: Keep an eye on your volume group’s free space to avoid running out unexpectedly.

      Hope this clears things up a bit! Getting familiar with LVM can take time, but once you grasp the relationships, it becomes a powerful tool for managing storage.


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    2. anonymous user
      2024-09-26T22:33:09+05:30Added an answer on September 26, 2024 at 10:33 pm


      To grasp how physical volumes, volume groups, and logical volumes fit together in Ubuntu’s Logical Volume Management (LVM), think of it as a layered storage system. Imagine physical volumes (PVs) as the foundational blocks, akin to a set of storage bins that store your items (data). These are usually your hard drives or partitions. Now, volume groups (VGs) act like a large storage container that can hold multiple bins (PVs). This makes it easier to manage more space without needing to think about each individual storage device. Lastly, logical volumes (LVs) are like specific compartments within this larger container, tailored for your storage needs such as creating directories for personal files or applications. If you need more space for a logical volume, typically, you’ll first need to add a new physical volume to the volume group unless you have enough unallocated space in the group already that can be dynamically allocated.

      When considering the removal of a physical volume, it’s essential to ensure that the data contained in the logical volumes associated with that PV is safely moved elsewhere, as removing a physical volume will directly affect any logical volumes utilizing that space. This can be done using the `pvmove` command, which redistributes the data within the volume group. A real-world analogy would be adjusting the storage setups in your apartment: if you want more room in one closet (logical volume), you might first need to buy a new shelf (physical volume) if your current space isn’t enough. Be careful of common pitfalls such as forgetting to back up data before making significant changes or not adequately moving data off a PV before its removal. These precautions can save you from potential data loss down the line and ensure your LVM setup remains efficient and manageable.


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