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Asked: September 25, 20242024-09-25T19:43:09+05:30 2024-09-25T19:43:09+05:30In: Linux

What could be the reason that using kill followed by a job number doesn’t terminate stopped jobs in a Linux environment?

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I’ve been diving deep into Linux commands lately, and I stumbled across something that I thought was pretty interesting (and a bit confusing). So, I was working with some stopped jobs in the terminal, and I tried to use the `kill` command with a job number to terminate one of them. I expected it to just squash the job like a bug, but nothing happened! It was as if the job was still lounging there, happily stopped, while I was there wondering what went wrong.

Now, I know that `kill` normally does the job when you’ve got a process running and you want to terminate it, but when it comes to stopped jobs, things got murky. I’ve read that using `kill %1` (where `%1` is the job number) sends the specified signal to the process, but why doesn’t this seem to work for jobs that are already stopped? It’s like trying to kick a bouncer out of a club who’s already taken a break on the sofa—doesn’t seem like it’s effective!

I mean, I get that stopped jobs are in a suspended state, but if I’ve got the job number right, and I’m issuing the command as I should, why doesn’t `kill` do the trick? Is it because of the way the shell handles these stopped jobs, or is it that the `kill` command only plays nice with processes that are running?

I’ve looked around a bit, and there’s mention of needing to send a different signal or maybe even using the `fg` command first to bring it back to the foreground before I can properly terminate it. But honestly, could someone clarify this for me? Is there a specific sequence I should be following, or is there an underlying principle about job control in Unix/Linux that I might be missing completely?

I’m really curious to hear other people’s experiences or insights on this! Thanks!

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    1. anonymous user
      2024-09-25T19:43:10+05:30Added an answer on September 25, 2024 at 7:43 pm


      It sounds like you’re really diving into the world of Linux commands—and I totally get the confusion! So, the thing with the `kill` command and stopped jobs is a bit tricky. When you use `kill %1`, you’re actually sending a signal to that job, but since the job is already stopped (like it’s on a break), it doesn’t just “squash” it like you might expect.

      In Linux, when a job is stopped (like using `Ctrl+Z`), it’s in a suspended state and doesn’t respond to the standard `kill` signal (which is usually `TERM` or terminate). Instead, you would need to use a different signal to get the job to actually end. Specifically, if you want to terminate a stopped job, you can either:

      • Use the `fg` command to bring it back to the foreground and then kill it again
      • Use the `kill -9 %1` command, which sends the `KILL` signal, forcing it to stop immediately.

      Bringing it to the foreground with `fg` first makes sense because the shell handles it and allows you to interact with the job before deciding to terminate it. It’s like saying to the bouncer to get off the couch and start working again before you can kick him out!

      So you’re on the right track! It really is about how job control works in a shell environment—once a job is stopped, it needs to be resumed in some way before you can really terminate it. Hope that clears things up a bit!


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    2. anonymous user
      2024-09-25T19:43:10+05:30Added an answer on September 25, 2024 at 7:43 pm

      The reason you cannot terminate a stopped job using the `kill` command with just the job number (like `kill %1`) is that stopped jobs are not actively running processes. When a job is stopped, it is essentially paused and not executing any instructions, so simply sending a signal to it via `kill` does not yield the expected results. In Unix-like systems, the `kill` command can send various signals to processes, but for a stopped job, it requires you to first bring it back to the foreground or background state to actually terminate it. This is because stopping a process merely suspends its execution; the process will remain in that state until explicitly changed by the user, usually by using commands like `fg` (to bring it back to the foreground) or `bg` (to resume it in the background).

      To properly terminate a stopped job, you can follow these steps: first, use the `fg` command to bring the job back to the foreground. This will allow the job to resume its execution. Once it’s running, you can then issue the `kill` command with the appropriate signal, typically `SIGTERM` (the default signal) or `SIGKILL` if you want to forcefully terminate it. Alternatively, if you prefer not to resume it, you could directly issue a `kill` command with the process ID (PID) you obtain from the job list (using the `jobs` command) or via `ps`. The underlying principle at play here involves the job control feature of the shell, which distinguishes between processes that are running, stopped, and terminated based on user commands rather than attempts to manipulate their state from a halted position without resuming them first.

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