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Asked: September 25, 20242024-09-25T17:21:50+05:30 2024-09-25T17:21:50+05:30In: Kubernetes

Does the Helm upgrade command initiate rolling restarts for deployments? Is the answer affirmative or negative, and if it’s negative, could you explain the reason?

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I was diving deep into Helm and Kubernetes recently, and I stumbled upon something that I’m hoping to get some clarity on. You know how Helm makes it easier to manage your applications in Kubernetes through packaging them into charts, right? Well, I’ve been using the `helm upgrade` command pretty regularly to deploy updates to my applications, and I started wondering about its behavior when it comes to rolling restarts.

So, here’s my actual question: Does the `helm upgrade` command automatically trigger rolling restarts for deployments? At first, I thought, “Of course it does! It’s like updating the application, so it should trigger a restart so changes take effect.” But then I started second-guessing myself. I can totally see how someone might argue that the underlying deployment strategy in Kubernetes could influence whether a restart occurs or not, right? Like, if the deployment spec remains unchanged, wouldn’t Kubernetes just keep the pods running without restarting them?

I had a conversation with a buddy who swears that the `helm upgrade` command doesn’t inherently kick off rolling restarts unless there’s a change in the configuration or the image version specified in the values file. That made sense to me, but it also made me think: Is it something we just assume or is there some undocumented magic that happens?

I mean, if the upgrade doesn’t trigger a restart and the app doesn’t pick up the new configuration—like if I updated an environment variable—then does that mean users would have to manually intervene? It seems a bit counterintuitive if you ask me, especially since deployments are supposed to be seamless!

So, is the answer to my question an affirmative or negative? And if it’s negative, I’d really love to know why that would be the case. It’s such a crucial part of updating apps, and I’d appreciate any insights or examples anyone can share from their own experiences. What do you think?

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    1. anonymous user
      2024-09-25T17:21:52+05:30Added an answer on September 25, 2024 at 5:21 pm

      The `helm upgrade` command does not automatically trigger rolling restarts for your deployments unless there are changes detected in the configuration, such as updates to the image version or other alterations in the values file. When you perform an upgrade, Helm compares the current and new values specified in the chart. If there are no changes in the deployment specification, Kubernetes will continue to manage the existing pods without initiating a restart. This behavior stems from Kubernetes’ nature of achieving stability; it tends to avoid unnecessary pod restarts unless it critically needs to, such as when a new container image is specified or configurations are modified.

      However, this can lead to situations where your application does not pick up new configurations, such as changes in environment variables, which could be unintuitive. For critical updates, you might find yourself needing to force a restart manually or change another parameter, like an image tag, to ensure the deployment updates appropriately. This means that while Helm facilitates managing your applications in Kubernetes, the restarts are somewhat dependent on the specifics of the deployment, which requires users to be mindful of their updates. In essence, while Helm does streamline upgrades, the nuances of Kubernetes deployments dictate the precise behavior regarding restarts during those upgrades.

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    2. anonymous user
      2024-09-25T17:21:51+05:30Added an answer on September 25, 2024 at 5:21 pm






      Helm Upgrade and Rolling Restarts

      About Helm Upgrade and Restarts

      So, I totally get where you’re coming from with the whole helm upgrade command and whether it triggers rolling restarts for your deployments in Kubernetes. It can be a bit confusing, right?

      Here’s the scoop: when you run helm upgrade, it will only start a rolling restart if there are changes to your deployment. This means changes to things like the image version or the configuration in your values file. If everything looks the same, Kubernetes is smart enough to just keep the existing pods running, which might feel a little weird if you’re expecting a restart.

      Your buddy is right; there’s no magic that happens here. It’s all about the deployment spec. If you don’t change anything that Kubernetes considers significant, it’ll just keep the same pods up. But that also means if you change an environment variable or something else in your config, you’d better make sure those changes are picked up, or otherwise, nothing happens, and your app is basically still dealing with the old settings!

      So, if you want your app to pick up those fresh configurations without manually intervening, make sure to modify something in the spec or the values during the upgrade. It’s kind of a balancing act between the desire for seamless updates and how Kubernetes handles deployments.

      In summary: No, helm upgrade does not automatically trigger rolling restarts unless there are changes. It’s all about what you’ve changed and the way Kubernetes sees those changes. Good luck with your Kubernetes journey!


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