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Asked: June 4, 20252025-06-04T22:13:59+05:30 2025-06-04T22:13:59+05:30

How can I accurately align two local points with two world space positions considering position, scale, and rotation?

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I’m facing a bit of a dilemma regarding aligning two local points in a prefab with two world space positions, factoring in position, scale, and rotation. Let me walk you through what I’m dealing with, and I hope someone can shed some light on it.

So, I have this prefab, let’s call it E, which contains two child transforms: A (the top) and B (the bottom). For instance, think of A as the top of a pole and B as the base. Then, there’s another prefab, F, that has its own transforms C and D. After everything is set up, F will get instantiated with specific world position, scale, and rotation. My task is to ensure that A and B end up perfectly aligned with C and D, respectively, once F is instantiated. Sounds simple enough, right?

Here’s where I’m getting stuck – it’s all about the transformations. I’ve written a method that calculates the necessary transformations (position, scale, rotation) to make this alignment work. It initially seemed promising, but the rotation just doesn’t seem to align properly, which throws off the positioning.

The latest version of my solution involves calculating world positions for targets based on the scale of F, determining scale ratios, and figuring out orientations based on the local directions. I thought I had a solid grasp on how to construct these transformations, especially when it came to calculating the rotations based on cross products and normalizations. But despite all of this, I still don’t get that perfect alignment.

Is there something I might be overlooking? Maybe my understanding of how to properly calculate the rotation between reference and target directions? I feel like the logic is almost there, but there’s a missing piece in the puzzle. Any suggestions on handling these transformations more effectively, or common pitfalls that lead to improper rotations? I could really use some insights or alternative approaches!

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    1. anonymous user
      2025-06-04T22:14:02+05:30Added an answer on June 4, 2025 at 10:14 pm

      Your intuition about basing rotations on cross products and normalizations is a good starting point, but a common pitfall involves mixing local and global coordinate spaces during these calculations. When aligning transforms from a prefab (such as points A and B) to instantiated transforms (like positions C and D), it’s crucial to handle the hierarchy carefully. A straightforward approach is to first compute the direction vectors separately—vector AB from your prefab and vector CD from your instantiated world-space points. Use Quaternion.FromToRotation with these two vectors to directly determine the exact rotation necessary, which eliminates many alignment issues that arise from manually computing orientations through normalized vectors and cross products.

      Another frequent issue occurs when scale adjustments are introduced; scaling often complicates rotation calculations because non-uniform scaling can distort directional vectors. It’s essential to apply scale separately, either before or after rotation and position alignment, but never intertwined with rotation itself. Consider temporarily normalizing or compensating for scale when computing rotations. Additionally, performing these transformations in a clearly defined step-by-step order–first aligning rotation based purely on direction, then applying scaling, and finally setting the position–can significantly reduce complexity and ensure predictable and accurate alignment.

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    2. anonymous user
      2025-06-04T22:14:01+05:30Added an answer on June 4, 2025 at 10:14 pm

      It sounds like you’ve got a pretty interesting challenge on your hands! Aligning these transforms can definitely get tricky, especially when accounting for all the transformations. Here are some thoughts that might help you troubleshoot your alignment issue:

      1. **Check Local vs World Transformations**: Make sure you’re converting everything correctly. When you’re working with local transforms (like the positions of A and B), they need to be transformed into the world space before you try to align them to C and D. You can do this by using the localToWorldMatrix or similar functions in your framework.

      2. **Rotation Issues**: This part can be a bit messy if you’re not careful. When aligning rotations, make sure you’re not just using cross products blindly. Instead, consider using quaternions if your framework supports them, as they can help prevent gimbal lock and make rotations smoother. If you’re using Euler angles, remember that the order of applying those rotations matters!

      3. **Scale Considerations**: Scaling can affect your positioning as well. When you calculate the world position for A and B, don’t forget to multiply the local position by the scale of the parent object (F in this case). This means you need to take the scale of F into account when determining where A and B should go.

      4. **Debugging the Alignment**: It might help to visualize the transformation matrices you’re using. If your framework allows it, try logging the world positions of A and B before you attempt to align them, and do the same for C and D. This way, you can see where the discrepancies lie.

      5. **Common Pitfalls**: One common mistake is assuming the alignment is absolute rather than relative. Make sure you’re calculating the transformation relative to the correct point in space. If there’s any offset or parent transform involved, it could throw off your calculations.

      6. **Incremental Debugging**: Try aligning the positions first without worrying about rotations, and then once that’s solid, move on to rotations. Sometimes breaking it down into smaller steps can reveal what’s going wrong.

      Hopefully, these tips provide a starting point for your troubleshooting! Transformations can get super complex, but with some testing and visualization, you’ll be able to figure it out!

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